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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.05.01 04:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Tharrn
..The whole message wasn't so much about the number of slaves returned to the fold but about how easy it has become to do business as an Amarrian in the 'Republic'. As the Ushra'Khan has pointed out they are not a pro-'Republic' defense force but so far they have always been the closest to being one as noone else seems to care at all - right now the 'Republic' has to rely solely on it's Navy it seems.
Perhaps you would not find it so easy if you actually engaged more Republic ships rather than sneaking around using SCC loopholes?
You may want to contact the Electus Matari. They are defenders of the Republic, or at least they were when I was still welcome in their ranks.
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Posted - 2006.05.02 06:30:00 -
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Originally by: Edward Sarum
...I am sorry but you are showing the limits of your races intelligence...
Wow, that didn't take long. As ever the Amarr resort to hurling childish insults. I can't say I'm suprised really. After all you simply can't support your own Empire without resorting to slave labour from more robust and adaptable races. You are yet to even conclude who killed your Emperor, let alone got around to replacing him after almost a year.
I don't think this tired old dogma of yours is working, perhaps you should look at changing to a Republican form of government. It may have it's faults but at least we don't have to keep millions of people in chains to prevent it's complete collapse.
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Posted - 2006.05.02 12:43:00 -
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The Caldari and the Amarr still bark the same tired old tunes at the ring of a bell. All is right with the universe.
Of course those capable of reading and comprehending will note that I did say the Republic has it's faults. But you neither read nor comprehend. You just spout the same tired, repetative, pre-recorded ramblings day after day.
The ability to view ones situation realistically and objectively requires a clarity and maturity that seems lacking in our galactic elders. The Matari people are ancient but out Republic is very young and that gives us strength as much as it gives us the odd growing pain. Our situation is far from perfect but having your native worlds nuked from orbit by a bunch of religious fanatics does tend to set one back a bit.
Yes, I can see it now. Roll out Caldari State approved response number four hundred and twelve, "We had a revolution too and did a lot better than the Matari". The thing is we were on the back foot in that war and only through our adaptabilty, tenacity and the assistance of the more enlightened members of the galactic community did we manage to claw our way to where we are now. Perhaps if we had been able to hold a "Revolution" in the form of stabbing a trusting ally squarely in the back we may have prospered as the Caldari did.
But please, pull out the old recordings if you must. It is those who can see and comprehend the changes going on around us who are the future. Those who cling to the same old dogma generation to generation have doomed themselves in an ever changing world.
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Posted - 2006.05.03 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ogmund
So, in summary ... several 1PG warships slipped into Rens, a busy commercial hub, unannounced and unnoticed to do some shopping. There they conducted a market transaction then left. Is this what passes for a gallant victory in the 1PG fleet? No wonder UÆK ignores you.
As a Republic loyalist I am less inclined to ignore your crimes. You illegally abducted citizens of the Republic and transported them into the Empire. Minmatar customs officers should have stopped you but they were apparently distracted or bribed.
I could respond by entering the Empire and buying some slaves and returning them to the Republic. But that would be expensive and unsatisfying. I have a better idea. I will enter the Empire this evening and begin liberating slaves from Amarrian ships. Hopefully I will find some of the Matari you took from Rens. This will likely take several days. When I can carry no more in my transport I will return home and resume my mining operations.
If the owners of those slave ships get upset I will tell them to send the bill to 1PG.
Ogmund
That pretty much sums it up. 1PG turn up in a trade hub where one U'K pilot is doing some shopping and then leave before a squad can travel all the way to Rens to respond. If this is what passes for glorious victory with the god botherers these days I may as well head over to Amarr Prime and deficate on some church doorstep in the dead of night. Then I'll declare myself the new Emperor on the basis that the entire Empire is afraid of me becasue the lone security guard was unable to stop me. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
You do raise an interesting point. It is a sick quirk of SCC regulations that allows the trade in freed slaves in Republic space but customs law dictates their transport is legal. I'm not sure and I am unable to check at the moment but I think the trasport of freed slaves is illegal within the Amarr Empire so our brothers are probably within the Republic still. Unless of course the 1PG broke Imperial law and transported illegal cargo through the Empire they claim to serve. Now wouldn't that be interesting news.
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Posted - 2006.05.03 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gazon
I'll make it brief so as not to strain your minds with too many obvious facts.
That line is getting a bit sad and worn out now.
Originally by: Gazon
The Minmatar race is inferior. Full stop.
Then set our people free, leave us alone and work your own factories and tend your own fields. Face it, you need slaves. That is a dependancy, dependancy is weakness. Prove me wrong by setting our people free and getting your own hands dirty with a bit of honest work for once.
Originally by: Gazon
As Thelemicus Thrace so aptly put it, you'd never have reached your temporary freedom if it hadn't been for "the assistance of the more enlightened members of the galactic community". Knowing that the Amarr are the most enlightened race of the galaxy, where does that leave the Minmatar? No further comment necessary.
What is this, an admission that Amarr officers turned on their own commanders during the uprising because they had seen the error of their ways? no it can't be! It must be a feeble attempt to twist my words to try and support a broken argument. Reaching a bit now aren't we, I can almost hear the strain in your words.
Oh yes, it's Telemicus, not Thelemicus. Ta.
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Posted - 2006.05.03 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gazon
The Amarr enslave because they obviously are superiour (sic)......Whatever.
*smirks* Yeah, 'nuff said really. 
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Posted - 2006.05.03 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Gorm Neos
Mister Thrace, I am not getting involved in this argument, but I must ask you that IF you really want to make a point, do it in a serious manner. Constantly saying that the Amarr repeat themselves and then start repeating that "we depend on slaves dear me" and we "cannot work for ourselves" is plain foolish. It is not even a reply to what is said to you. And in the end resorting to errors in spelling to win the argument, that's just sad. Really.
Really? I won the argument? and there was me just thinking it was funny and ironic given the content of the statement. What is there to win here in this place? nothing. 1PG used a quirk of SCC law to purchase free men. A simple trade that has been manufactured into some sort of great victory over the Republic and the Ushra'Khan. This is a debacle, a joke, a farce. Or at least it would be if it didn't concern free men being taken in slavery.
My points have been made clearly, if the best you can do is to keep hurling childish insults rather than face them there is nothing more for me to do than either sink to your pathetic level or leave and deal with less pointless and inane actions than this 'argument' I have done the former and I s******ed like a cadet all through my supper. Now I shall do the latter and look forward to welcoming our lost brothers back into the Republic and to freedom when the time comes.
There is never any point talking with mindless fanatics. I remember now, I really should write it down next to my console.
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Posted - 2006.05.04 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Karn Mithralia
Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 03/05/2006 13:22:49
You may not see my brother Telemicus, slaver, but it does not mean he does nothing. It only means you are not all seeing and all powerful like that mythical god of yours.
Thrace Inc. holds an honored name among us. Not all men fight with guns.
Ah the noble Karn. It's been a while, you and your kin are always welcome in our halls.
The irony of this is that I have passed by a few of these very slavers in the last couple of days. I suppose the fact that they didn't see me just shows I still ain't lost my touch. 
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Posted - 2006.05.04 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
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This link shows the destruction of slave transports last night in the Lisudeh system.
action in Lisudeh
Today I moved on to the Eredan system. I found a large convoy but my scanners showed only one ship with a significant number of slaves aboard. Although the convoy fired briskly they could not prevent the inevitable.
So Gradient now supports terrorism?
Small detail, and I know you will ignore it but an armed and armoured convoy is not a civilian target therefore it cannot by definition be and act of terrorism.
Slavers raids on unarmed civilian colonists along the border are by definition acts of terrorism.
The Amarr Empire is the largest supporter of organised terrorism and user of terror tactics by any accepted definition of the term.
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Posted - 2006.05.05 01:30:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
...buying the work contracts of free people from the Republic and taking them to slavery in Amarr is a violation of the Republic laws and of human decency...
The problem is that the transiant worker contracts available on the market are legal in both the Republic and the Empire. The actual act of enslaving these workers is done within the Empire where our laws do no apply. Inter-Faction laws are spartan at best given the tenuous nature of the Yulai Accord. I fully agree with your sentiments but this is indeed not an unlawful act no matter how unjust.
I have a solution and I will prepare an official announcent on local channels when I return to Republic space. Just as the Ushra'Khan are willing to take care of transporting our enslaved brothers to freedom I would like to propose steps to protect our brothers once they are free.
Thrace Inc and any other reputable Republican group who wishes to render assistance should seek to control the flow of worker contracts. Instead of trading freed slaves work contracts on the open market I put it to the citizens of the Republic to transfer freed slave contracts to Thrace Inc and other members of this labour consortium. Just as we cannot pay for every contract tranfered to us we will provide these workers to any reputable Matari organisation that has work for them without any charge.
In time I'm sure we can develop a network of groups who can provide slaves to those who can free them and in turn pass the details on to those who can find them work. Or I should say develop a larger network than the one that already exists.
I am sure it will also be of benefit to publicly identify those who sell worker contracts to slavers. I will attend to both matters once I get back to the Republic.
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Posted - 2006.05.06 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
...I wouldn't care if we'd do as your 'Republic' is not a proper state and still not accepted as sovereign entity by the Empire.
Yes it is. The Amarr Empire formally recognised the Minmatar Republic when it signed the Yulai accord. Neither I nor the law nor Concord care how much you may resent that, it is fact. That is why your Empire still has to deny all knowledge of the illegal slaver ships it sends to our colonies to either kidnap our people or terrorise them using orbital released chemical attacks. The looks on the faces of all those Amarr officers as their own Empire denounced them as pirates leaving them to be executed under Republic law.
Take heart that they died quickly and cleanly, we take no pleasure in killing. Feel free to purchase their Imperial Insignia and ID chips on the open market, perhaps you can return them to their families. I urge you in the name of simple humanity to save the lives of these young officers by urging your Imperial masters to cease these terrorist attacks on our civilian population.
Your people and ours can live in peace, all we ask is that you release all Matari currently held in slavery and to cease illegal raids and terrorist attacks on our colonies.
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Posted - 2006.05.06 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
I would like to express my heart-felt thanks to all the parties who have openly or behind-the-scenes expressed their support to us in this time of crisis. It makes me proud to be part of this nation and these various networks of tribesmen and allies. I would like to especially comment on the unwavering loyalty and support by which our new alliance has stood by us, despite us bringing trouble of this kind with us. This kind of expression of unity truly shows that there is no evil so great that good cannot come out of it.
Thank you, brothers and sisters.
It is always a joy when the tribes come together. Sadly the circumstances do not allow our normal feasting.
As promised I have started the ball rolling with the creation of the Liberty Network. It is open to all Matari and anyone else that wants to see our brothers and sisters not only free but also gainfully employed and protected from the kind of foul deception that the Amarr have managed to come up with here. It goes without saying that any of the Ushra'Khan, Stormriders or Namtz'aar k'in administrative staff that are prepared to help administer these communications channels have but to ask and will be given access.
Regardless of that Thrace Inc have the means laid out, we now just call on the freedom loving people of the galaxy to sign up to the mailing list, join the comm frequency and work together to free our people. Apart from getting slaves to those pilots with access to treatment for them we also aim to provide freed slaves with access to reputable pod pilots that have genuine employment opportunities for them. We will also use the mailing list to compile data on who is trading our brothers on the open market so we can tell them about the Liberty Network.
Sign up to the Liberty Network today. Build a stronger Republic for tomorrow.
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Posted - 2006.05.07 03:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/05/2006 02:49:18
Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/05/2006 02:38:26
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Build a stronger Republic for tomorrow.
The only thing an organisation working with terrorist tactics will accomplish is a stronger stench of pointless death across the universe.
Indeed. Please refer to my previous and unrefuted points that the only ones using and supporting terror tactics is the Amarr Empire. Attacking armed slaver convoys is not an act of terror because they are not civilian targets, if anything it could be considered an act of war. Attacking civilian settlements from orbit with chemical weapons or sending in ground troops to kidnap and enslave non-combatants is by definition terrorism. Your constant mis-use of the word astounds me considering how intelligent you seem to think you are.
In light of the fact that the Amarr Empire is a self confessed supporter of terrorism & terror tactics along with your Empires well documented history of spreading pointless death across the universe I wholely support the principle of your statement.
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Posted - 2006.05.07 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/05/2006 03:16:48
Attacking slave convoys in AMARRIAN SPACE is an act of piracy and terror against Amarrian CIVILIAN targets. The purpose is to scare Amarrian civilian traders into complying to your demands. That is terrorism.
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Main Entry: ter+ror+ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
1 : the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion
Traders are NOT soldiers and our governments are NOT at war.
The fact that they are in armed convoys doesnt change the fact that it is an illegal act of murder and piracy for the purposes of sowing terror that is being accomplished by U'K/SRS and now Gradient pilots.
They are terrorists.
What a lot of rot. Traders are people taking medical supplies of food to those that need it. Armed men, on armed ships attacking innocent civilians then holding them against their will to face slavery and torture in the name of spreading your religious and political rubbish are not traders. They are hostage takers, pirates, raiders, murderers and terrorists. If anyone kills such men while freeing the hostages they hold the last thing they can be called is a terrorist.
If you want to see an end to your terrorist lackeys getting killed stop kidnapping Matari citizens. It's quite simple. Set the Matari you still have free, leave our space, cease attacking our colonies and your people can torment each other in the name of a false god until the Fedo develop a spoken language for all we care.
As long as you continue to use terrorist or any other tactics to attempt to force ideological and politcal change on us we will resist.
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Posted - 2006.05.08 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rocius
Edited by: Rocius on 08/05/2006 00:13:21
These appear to be moot points at this time my brethren.
It now seems, that the true nature and agressive stance of the Praetorians comes to light.
They have now declared war upon Namtz'aar K'in.
It is now time, that they suffer in full, personaly for their actions.
As my brother Ogmund put it, time to teach these dogs a lesson.
I can tell you this, it will be no mere "tap on the nose", this is gonna be a full fledged, "beat that dog's ass"
That is all.
So the Amarr are no longer content to just terrorise our civilians, now they go to war. It seems violence is the only thing these fanatics understand or even desire.
I wish the Namtz'aar K'in good fortune in repelling this foreign aggressor and their terrorist cohorts.
Rocius, we have served together in the past so you know where my talents lay and you know how to reach me.
Long live the Republic.
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Posted - 2006.05.08 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ricardo ilMagnifico
Good to see Gradient and Thrace taking it to the CVA, damn slavers *spits*. I for one can't wait to fight side by side with you Tel and the rest of the Thrace crew. I know we can destroy these filthy oxygen thieves...
Heya Ric, thanks for the assist the other night. It was good to run into Taters as well after all these years.
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
Check your facts, pilot:
As far as I am aware, Thrace is not entering the war, and neither is CVA involved as 1st Praetorian is not a member of that alliance.
Other than that, thanks for the sentiment.
Quite true, however where I live formal declerations of war are just a costly formality. I have no doubt if the slavers arrive on my doorstep there will be only the usual mindless violence directed first and formost at the women and children.
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